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ET-078: Transforming your life: Ambika Devi’s meditation secrets for lasting harmony

With Ms. Ambika Devi

ET-078: A conversation with Ms. Ambika Devi

and your host Wayne Brown on December 19, 2023

Episode notes: A conversation with Ms. Ambika Devi

Hello and welcome to the ET Project. I’m your host, Wayne Brown, and as usual, we’re delighted to be delivering this podcast for executive talent all over the world whom we’re affectionately referring to as Team ET.

Today we are heading to Stuart, in the southeast of Florida to meet up with our roller-skating guest, who is loving referred to as the Yodini Yoda and a Meditation Jedi, Ms Ambika Devi .

As a speaker, Ambika’s expert knowledge of the mind and her engaging storytelling, inspires audiences and provides effective tools to demonstrate how they can alter neural pathways and thought loops.

Ambika delivers Keynotes, panel discussions and in-service retreats for organizations both nationally and internationally. She has appeared on TLC-The Learning Channel, syndicated and public radio, NY Public access television, is a recurring guest on podcasts and vlogcasts, and taught holistic health at the university level for 21 years.

With 47 years of experience, >13,500 hours of study and having taught over 20,000 people the art of meditation. Ambika gives three clear steps that lead you directly into a deep state of meditation.

Here is an extract from our conversation as we start to get into it…

So already first grade I had trouble then. And then by ninth grade, I had a teacher tell me, “You’re never going to amount to anything.” This was an English teacher, everybody. “You’ll never amount to anything because you can’t spell.” Well, she didn’t know I’d have a computer with a spellchecker, nor did she know I’d eventually hire editors. [chuckle] And over time, actually, the spellcheckers have helped teach me and really, you don’t have to be a perfect speller to be a writer. There’s ways to get help with that. So, I’m grateful for all of those opportunities because in coaching clients, and I ran into this earlier today, I talk to people about relationships and communication a lot, Wayne. I always learn from my clients and then I really try to make a focus of my clients learning from what they see as obstacles or shortcomings, because it’s when we’re able to move through those either with ourselves in relationship with ourselves, or with other people, and this translates into business and being an entrepreneur and an executive or CEO, that we have to understand that it is in those walls that we hit.

Today’s Guest: MS. AMBIKA DEVI

An author of six international best-selling and award-winning books inspire the changes you crave. As a coach and workshop leader, she places you precisely on your path using tools from her multiple degrees in fields of study including: A Masters in Yoga and Meditation, and bachelor’s degrees in Astrology, and Fine Arts and her decade of research as a PhDc. Join her peace-building mission helping people realize that thought is the architect of reality and that happiness is our true nature. This is the road-map that shows you how to step out of the churning river of thoughts and activity of the mind, stop wearing insane schedules like badges of honor so that your team gets back to harmonious ideation with clear communication and healthy relationships.

Final words from Ambika:

Please just take a baby step. Don’t feel like you have to dump everything and go over to some other location or team, every little incremental movement in a more positive direction. Don’t feel like you’ve got to drink more water, but maybe just a little more water. Don’t feel like you have to give up all your creature comforts, but maybe evaluate, are they really healthy for me?

The same thing goes for food. If you can’t pronounce it, don’t eat it. And if you don’t wanna eat it, don’t put it on your skin. Think about that. Really, these are just little tiny things but your habits are your habits and you have to understand, you just can’t rip everything down to shreds and make a huge shift. Tiny little steps and praise yourself when you’re doing something good.

At the very least, just take a moment of gratitude before you put anything in your body. And, then every day. And what I do is I have a pop-up reminder on my calendar in the afternoon that says, say three things you’re grateful for, and just do that. Yeah. People have gratitude journals and people… I like the new electronic calendar thing where you can write all kinds of popups and I do. And you know what? That’s another way to block out sections on your calendar so nobody can get in there. And you can always remove one if you have to put a meeting in there or something. But just try a little tiny shift…

[music]

0:00:03.8 Wayne Brown: Hello, I’m your host, Wayne Brown, and welcome to the ET project. We’re delighted to be delivering this podcast for executive talent all over the world whom we’re affectionately referring to as team ET. And today we’re heading to Stewart in the southeast of Florida to meet up with our roller-skating guest, who is lovingly referred to as the Yogini Yoda and a Meditation Jedi Ms. Ambika Devi. As a speaker Ambika’s expert knowledge of the mind and her engaging storytelling inspires audiences and provides effective tools to demonstrate how they can alter the neural pathways and thought loops. Ambika delivers keynotes, panel discussions and in-service retreats for organizations both nationally and internationally. She’s appeared on TLC, The Learning Channel, syndicated in public radio, NY Public Access Television, and is a recurring guest on podcasts and Blogcast and has taught holistic health at university level for 21 years.

0:01:05.4 WB: With 47 years of experience, more than 13,500 hours of study and having taught over 20,000 people the art of meditation, Ambika gives three clear steps that lead you directly to a deep state of meditation. An author of six international bestselling and award-winning books inspire the changes you crave. As a coach and a workshop leader, she places you precisely on your path using tools from her multiple degrees, which include a master’s in Yoga and Meditation, a bachelor’s degree in Astrology and in Fine Arts, plus her decade of research as a PhD program candidate. Join her peace building mission, helping people realize that thought is the architect of reality, and that happiness is our true nature. This is a roadmap that shows you how to step outta that churning river of thought and the activities of your mind, stop wearing insane schedules like badges of honor, so that your team gets back to the harmonious ideation with clear communication and healthy relationships. So team ET, I hope you’re ready to join me just one week before that jolly old guy comes calling on you as we tune into today’s discussion with our very first mind tamer Ms. Ambika Devi, as we unpack some of the ways to reclaim that inner and outer harmony and strengthen your health and wellbeing.

0:02:37.5 Speaker 2: Welcome to the ET Project. A podcast for those executive talents determined to release their true potential and create an impact. Join our veteran coach and mentor Wayne Brown as we unpack an exciting future together.

0:02:54.8 WB: Alright. Hello, team ET. Such a pleasure to be back with you today. We’re inching ever closer to the end of 2023, and I know for many of you this is a season or a time of the year, that signals probably an opportunity to slow down just that little bit, perhaps even take some weeks off, get rid of that constant grind and perhaps rest and recharge or at least I hope so. With that in mind, I’m super excited and happy that we’re able to welcome today’s guest who’s an expert in guiding individuals to reclaim their outer harmony as well as strengthen their health and wellbeing. Ambika Devi, I wanted to say namaste. Welcome to the ET Project.

0:03:40.4 Ambika Devi: Namaste. First of all, I love that it’s called ET. [laughter] UFOs and extraterrestrials, always a fascination of mine. And the idea that we go beyond what we perceive as this fleshy temple that we live inside of, Wayne. Thank you for having me as a guest.

0:04:01.2 WB: Just say that we haven’t scared all our listeners, we know that ET actually stands for Executive Talents, right?

[laughter]

0:04:11.2 WB: Some of you may be extraterrestrials, of course.

[laughter]

0:04:17.6 WB: For the most part.

0:04:19.5 AD: Well, as you learned in the Green Room with me, Wayne, I do like to make people laugh. So [chuckle] I feel that I think that’s why laughter yoga exists because we can get so serious and we can get the mind so tangled up in things that we forget that that is a part of the joy and healing that can help soothe and calm the energy. And if you noticed, I said, “The mind.” The mind is perceived, from my tradition, to be exterior. I know a lot of us grow up kind of thinking the mind’s inside of our skull in our brain, but I really see that as a computer hard drive that downloads and a processor that processes information. But the mind is perceived in the yogic tradition to be exterior and to be unified. That we all have the ability to tap into it.

0:05:23.4 WB: A very nice starting point. And you have a couple of… I wanna call them nicknames, but you may not be [chuckle] So much of a nickname. You are known as the Yogini Yoda. Now I was gonna say the female Yoda, but you corrected me on that. So, the Yogini Yoda as well as the Meditation Jedi. So I’m sitting here feeling a little bit like a student, a little bit anxious, a little bit nervous, but very excited about the conversation with a grand master.

0:05:56.8 AD: Actually, the idea of being called Yogini Yoda came from a student. And I taught university level for 21 years. I taught holistic health. And I’ve been a teacher of yoga and meditation since 1977. I started meditating in 1966. So, and we did establish that I will be 64 this month of October, 2023. So, yeah. I mean, I’ve been at this for this entire lifetime.

0:06:29.1 WB: Fantastic.

0:06:29.7 AD: And I was gifted the opportunity to be around people that taught this to me. And when I was very little, I was taken outta public school for several reasons and placed in a pilot reading program because I hadn’t been learning how to read, and go figure, now I am an award-winning author. So, I’ve had a few obstacles when it comes to writing. I was not the world’s greatest speller because I was a safety that… I don’t know if you have those in the other countries. When it’s a crossing guard, when you’re going to school and you’re walking across a street, and I was a little kid crossing guard and I missed spelling class in second grade.

0:07:17.5 AD: So already first grade I had trouble then. And then by ninth grade, I had a teacher tell me, “You’re never going to amount to anything.” This was an English teacher, everybody. “You’ll never amount to anything because you can’t spell.” Well, she didn’t know I’d have a computer with a spellchecker, nor did she know I’d eventually hire editors. [chuckle] And over time, actually, the spellcheckers have helped teach me and really, you don’t have to be a perfect speller to be a writer. There’s ways to get help with that. So, I’m grateful for all of those opportunities because in coaching clients, and I ran into this earlier today, I talk to people about relationships and communication a lot, Wayne. I always learn from my clients and then I really try to make a focus of my clients learning from what they see as obstacles or shortcomings, because it’s when we’re able to move through those either with ourselves in relationship with ourselves, or with other people, and this translates into business and being an entrepreneur and an executive or CEO, that we have to understand that it is in those walls that we hit.

0:08:32.1 AD: Not just the speed bumps, but the walls that we hit that are the opportunities where we can grow the most.

0:08:41.5 WB: Right. You really have a rich history, I have to say at the outset. You’ve done so much and you are so knowledgeable and experienced in so many areas. What was the trigger that sort of pushed you in this direction? Was there a point in your life where you suddenly decided that you wanted to understand the complexities of the universe or more about life or be more holistic in your being?

0:09:05.1 AD: I was about two years old.

0:09:07.9 WB: Wow.

[laughter]

0:09:11.4 AD: Maybe two and a half. I remember being a little tiny child and imagining that there was a great cosmic eye that was looking at me. And I used to experience this every night. I mean, as you were asking me the question, I’m seeing it. I’m back in that moment. I’m that little kid. I grew up in a more northern location. I live in the subtropics now, but it was cold, it was wintery. We had baseboard heaters. And I remember in my room, I sometimes would take a blanket and huddle up against the baseboard heater if I wasn’t so sleepy that I could go right to sleep. And I remember just having these experiences of feeling like I was at the bottom of a microscope or a telescope being watched by a great cosmic eye. And I’ve made eyeball art all my life.

0:10:13.0 AD: And then if I look at nebulas or, images of the cosmos or the beautiful paintings of all these different ancient cultures that have maybe third eyes or the eyes of Buddha, or… Oh. Come on. I mean, the wheel with the electric. It’s always been in me. I was born this way. I can’t say that it’s anything but and the yogis say that when everybody that comes in this lifetime, we’ve all been here thousands and thousands of times. So this, I’m gonna say, nonsense of old soul, young soul doesn’t make any sense to me. Not at all. And that maybe some of us remember stuff a little bit more clearly and others maybe have amnesia if we could all… And I think that’s what we’re using, this idea of awakened.

0:11:17.3 AD: But awakening truly is a short period of time. And then you return to source. You become self-realized. You self combust. [chuckle] And I do realize this that I came in wanting world peace and I was born into a family that were pacifists. And they sent me to a Quaker school where I learned how to meditate. And the path I landed, I won the lottery to get this little body that I’m in ’cause it’s only five feet tall. And to be with these people who raised me on laughter and music and nature, and to be around people that did yoga. My mother took me to yoga class and the Quakers taught me how to sit quietly once a week for an hour as a first grader when I was six.

0:12:23.9 AD: I mean, not everybody gets that experience. So this is how it builds, Wayne. It doesn’t just like explode on you all at once. And the yogis say that, we all come in with a balance of… I’m gonna use the black and white metaphor, people, but what I want you to understand is there’s always a gray area, but good and bad, positive, negative. We all come in with that. But then it’s up to us to, at the end of the day, collect more stones from the positive pouch and be able to look at the day and say to ourselves, “Okay. I’ve done some good today.” We all have negative thought. That because the mind feeds it to us, it goes… And we notice only a fraction of what goes through our potential awareness every day.

0:13:26.6 WB: To that point, what does a life or a day in the life of Ambika Devi look like?

0:13:35.0 AD: Ambika Devi. [laughter]

0:13:38.2 WB: Ambika Devi.

0:13:39.3 AD: I’m going to go with a more comfortable day because some days I have to set an alarm. And also, when I’m doing things like this, I might have to stay up super late at night, like tonight. Or get up ridiculously early in the morning, which is not my happy place. I’m a night owl. So, a pleasant day in the life is get up naturally. Awaken naturally. Feel motivated to meditate, but clean the body first. Let it empty. Today I had the opportunity to go sit outside in the sunshine, meditate, practice pranayama, which are breathing exercises from yoga, then come inside, start to do some tasks, talk to clients, make some food, do some yoga, do some laundry. I did some laundry today. Write or edit video, because those of us who get involved in this, we have hours and hours of stuff we can be editing.

0:14:40.5 WB: Yeah.

0:14:41.9 AD: Perhaps write a little. I took some time out. I made some videos. I posted stuff to social media. I enjoyed my dinner. Sometimes I only eat once a day. I don’t eat a lot. In my book, “Unfolding Happiness,” this is an introduction to Ayurveda. And in Ayurveda, there are three main types that can then have subtypes. They’re called doshas. And then there is the possibility of being Tri-Doshic, which I am. And so in a Tri-Doshic person, they could have one of the doshas more their physical body, one more their mental, one more their spiritual or… And it’s all subdominant too. So having a more Kapha nature, people mispronounce it. Kapha. It’s spelled in English, K-A-P-H-A but it’s kapa is how you pronounce it. My body is Kapha and I could eat sunshine. Truly.

0:16:00.4 AD: If I get some sunshine, I’m not hungry. And that’s when I know I’m more in balance. When I drink more water in a day, and I take time to be grateful for it and pray on it, then I know I’m in a more harmonious place that day. If I’m finding myself rush around and be scattered, then I do try to bring myself to a centering place. And that’s what’s really important to understand about meditation, everybody. Is that many people imagine meditation to be a destination, like a train stop you have to get off at, and that’s incorrect. It’s a state of being. So when we can move through the day and be in that witnessing state of watching what’s happening, instead of reacting and re-reacting to it, then when I can feel that, I know I’m having a great day. And if a negative thought happens, which it does, because we’re all human, that happens and I react.

0:17:08.4 AD: But maybe like today, there was a moment when I started feeling a little stressed out over some things that started piling up that I had to handle by a certain point today. And I know we all experience that. So what did I do? I stopped. I laid down. I stopped and laid down and put the devices down and just did nothing. And then I put some music on, that is chant music, and I listen to chant music every day. Not la la la kind of chant music, everybody. I listen to traditional Sanskritam, which is Sanskrit, Vedic chanting. And I listen to particular things pretty much every day of a particular chants to Ganesha, which we should always chant to first anyway, to open the doors, open the gateways. And then I listen to the Nirvana Shatakam, which when we translate it into English, is basically, “I’m not this body. I am not this mind. I am not the senses. I am not this perception of what we’re calling reality. I am the witness of all of this.” And I remind myself daily of this.

0:18:29.0 WB: I was just thinking as you were explaining about the negative self-talk, you obviously have the gift of being able to catch yourself and know yourself well enough to react to that. In my case, and in many of the leaders I know, many people struggle with that. It’s just a part of their life that they live with, they accept, and they don’t try and understand what they can do to change it. Was there something that you could recommend that people can do if and when they are able to catch that self-talk, that negative self-talk.

0:19:10.1 AD: Practice, practice catching it. Praise yourself when you catch it. Because we human beings, just like any other animal, we do really well with praise. So when you catch yourself catching yourself, then you stop. I used to work as a musician. I’ve had a gazillion different vocations in this lifetime. I almost put a career counselor in a coma when I was in my 30s when she asked me, tell me every job you’ve had and the name of the manager and how much you made. And after about a half hour of starting at age 14, going to about 16, she said, stop, stop, stop. Just do the last year. [laughter]

0:19:58.6 WB: Very good.

0:20:00.8 AD: So, having an accountability partner, there’s different types, just like I talked about in the physicality of Ayurveda, there are different types. We say type A personality, right? Well, that’s gonna be much different than somebody in a depressed state. Everybody wants to be loved. And the thing that I find myself saying to people every day is you are asking about does this other person love you? Or are they thinking of you? Guess what? You have to measure it against how much you love you. You can only feel and experience the height and love and level of love from others that matches the height and level of love you have for yourself, which is what I was really getting at in this book, which is Cupid is a Bastard, because this happened after my mother died and then the lockdown happened. So I was living alone with no pets, no children. I had to find that level of self-love every day and not be freaked out by what was going on because, look, I can survive without constant feedback and stimulation and physical touch. And I can definitely do the loner thing real happy. No problem.

0:21:29.3 AD: Creativity is my lover. Writing is one of my lovers. Yesterday, I think it was yesterday. Yeah, it was yesterday in the morning. I put on some opera and the next thing I know, I’m doing ballet all over the house. I’m doing these ballet moves and then I went out roller skating. They just resurfaced the roads in my neighborhood and it’s like ice skating on fresh ice. It’s amazing. That is a happy place for me. Getting out for a walk. Happy place. When people come to me as clients and they’re really freaked out or they’re really depressed, one of my first questions. Is are you getting out into nature? Oh, I really should be. Well, that’s usually the response and they know it, but they need to be reminded. So it’s really important and we have to have some connection. We have to have somebody for something. My music partner for many, many years. We’re not living anywhere near each other, but we have always been dream buddies. If we have a wacky dream, we remember we call each other up or we write it in an email, but we always discuss it and that has been going on for decades.

0:22:46.9 AD: So, that’s a really close friend and that’s important. Now, if in business, you’ve got to have a colleague or an assistant or somebody who supports you and you’ve got to have somebody that you support because we want to have this energy go both ways.

0:23:10.6 WB: Let’s unpack this a little bit in the sense of this holistic lifestyle, as you mentioned earlier, you spent 21 years at university level teaching about holistic health, etcetera. Could you define that a little bit more to give it some feeling of succinctness? And then the second question is, what part of that should we discuss further to really help our listeners who are leaders, most often in a high stress environment, probably feeling anxious, probably feeling a degree of burnout? What should we talk about within your practice under this banner of holistic lifestyle?

0:23:51.7 AD: Well, holistic is in relation to the whole, the greater, and teaching holistic health is also an integration of mind, body and spirit. I worked as a practitioner for many, many years. I took the lab coat off and started just doing talk therapy because I realized during those years that dis-ease happens in the mind before the body, because that’s what makes us make the choices that we do. It’s most unfortunate, but people would often come to me when it was getting too late to make any big changes. I just recently had a dear friend call me up at the beginning of September, and she had asked to be taken to the ER because of symptoms she was having, and then was diagnosed as diabetic. And she called me the next day and said, help. And so of course, I jumped into helping.

0:25:00.3 AD: And after in taking information, I said, I don’t think you really have diabetes. And by the way, it’s my perception that that’s actually a parasite infestation. Now, human beings don’t like to think of parasites. And so, interestingly enough, her husband is an exterminator. He takes care of critters in the house. We’re in Florida, there’s bugs and other things anywhere you live. And I just discussed with him, now that she is getting so much better in such a short amount of time, what did we do? We changed a few bathing habits. We changed eating habits. We also did a therapy protocol to begin to cleanse the body out. But the thing is and what she’s been telling me in these weeks, because it hasn’t been that long, that she is so grateful that I’m here every single day if she has questions.

0:26:01.9 AD: And so I think the easiest way to describe holistic is in contrast to western medicine. Western medicine is shoot and destroy, identify, target, shoot at it. Holistic is, let’s look at what’s going on with you. So first we have to measure what is the level of health? And that involves lifestyle. Lifestyle is your sleeping habits, your eating habits, your environment habits. Because actually diet, which is another pillar of health, is, what are you taking in media-wise? What is your environment like? I was talking to a client earlier tonight who was upset because she has to go clean out her mother’s place, who is a hoarder. And I said, look when somebody gets to that place, it’s because they are afraid that they won’t have anything. And it usually comes from earlier in life when they didn’t have anything.

0:27:03.9 AD: And it could be from different ways. And this can translate into business and sleep. Remember I said earlier, if I wake up and I feel really great, well that’s ’cause I had a really great night’s sleep. But so many people are forced to get up at a certain time and their body is never fully resting. Or, they’re being… They’re awakened all through the night. My friend who I’m helping, she was waking up five times a night to pee. That is a definite… That is not normal. And now, after just a few weeks of the protocol, I have her on, and mind you, it doesn’t taste nasty. She’d be the first to admit it. It’s easy. It’s not having her attached to a porcelain monument, but we do have evidence of things being passed out of her. I’m just, I’m gonna do this politely.

0:28:02.1 AD: I have photographs because I do require that my clients send me pictures and they’re like, Ew. And I say, you know what? I can’t smell it. It’s a picture. I can’t diagnose it if you can’t show it to me. Because I taught pathology, I taught, herbology. I taught aromatherapy before anybody knew what it was. I taught joint manipulation, muscle massage, all sorts of things and, pathology and shiatsu and a lot of stuff. And there are different teachers that I’ve had the good fortune of studying with, like Peter D’Adamo, who wrote Eat Right for Your Blood type. So when it gets into holistic with me, it is vast. And I can get people who are acupuncturists to get in denial, because I showed some pictures to a buddy who’s an acupuncturist of what’s going on with this client and what we have proof, living proof next to a dime, which is a coin in my country, to show the size.

0:29:04.8 AD: And she thought it was a freeze dried specimen that I got from like a specimen museum. And I said, no, that came out of my client this morning. Just like that, not washed off. And she went silent. Haven’t heard from her since. So the thing is, people, our modern medicine is not addressing this because they’re going after symptoms and they’re not going after root cause. And the bottom line is, if you’ve ever seen an ant in your house, if you’ve ever taken your pet to the vet and had it dewormed, then my question is, why aren’t you doing that for you? And that’s causing a lot of psychological issues, physical issues. And that’s just one tiny, tiny bit, Wayne, about holistic health. So back to it is like how did you sleep? How did you digest this morning? And then what’s going on in your environment today? Are you listening to like.

[vocalization]

0:30:02.5 AD: Music? Or are you outside listening to the wind and the insects and the birds? This is lifestyle. What are you doing with your day? Are you taking time out? Are you going out and getting a bit of sunshine? Are you drinking clean water? Are you bathing twice a day in the morning and the night because you wanna wash off the sleep when your body is detoxing and regenerating, even just a rinse off. You don’t have to get crazy with the soap, and then at night do a rinse off because you’ll sleep better. These, it’s so easy. And then when it comes to food, which is what people think diet is, there are many, many different choices. But what I teach my clients is you’ve gotta figure out what’s right for you. And we can take a lot of things into consideration.

0:30:51.4 AD: What’s your dosha, what’s your blood type? Are you a secretor, or a non-secretor? You know, where are you at? What were you born like, And then I can start to make recommendations, and I make little tweaks. I think the biggest thing that freaks people out is I’m gonna tell you, stop eating. You can’t eat anything you want. Peter, when I studied with him, he used to say, look, if nothing’s going on, you can ignore all this stuff. But if you’ve got symptoms or something’s going on, you might wanna pay a little attention to this. And that’s my attitude with clients.

0:31:29.4 WB: You have a course that I’ve seen called End Sleep Envy. Stop telling 2 AM your secrets. I love the tagline. Stop telling 2 AM Your secrets. So this…

0:31:40.8 AD: Thank you.

0:31:41.8 WB: If I saw it correctly, this is a seven day course or practice. So my wife has a very, very bad sleep. She has a habit of going to sleep extremely late, having very poor quality of sleep when she is asleep. If she wakes up for work purposes the duration of sleep is very short. So would this type of course be the course for her or would it need to be more…

0:32:10.4 AD: Absolutely.

0:32:13.8 WB: Tailored?

0:32:15.2 AD: Oh, absolutely. I named it the title. And Stop Telling 2:00 AM Your Secrets. I had a great difficulty sleeping, especially in situations like at an ashram where you can hear everybody 10 spaces away and snoring will keep me up. I would consider myself a lighter sleeper, although I can sleep incredibly deep, but I’ll wake up at a sound or, so it’s important for me to have a quiet space, an incredibly dark space. So I use blackout curtains where I sleep. And I interviewed a lot of different types of insomniacs when I created the course plus I used my own personal experience. And each day I asked these insomniacs, how much time would you devote to learning how to get better sleep per day if I asked you to devote seven days to it? Guess how many minutes they said.

0:33:14.9 WB: I’ll take a stab at an hour.

0:33:17.3 AD: Two minutes. That’s how much they would give. So I tried to keep it around five minutes because in two minutes, it’s kind of tough to give you some really good information. Each day of the course, I give you a specific guided meditation. Not every one of them is going to work for everybody. And I geared it related to the elements and the chakras. So we have seven chakras, seven days. So I use the elements of the ones that have elements. And, these are proprietary. You can’t find these on my podcast because on my podcast, there are guided meditations to help you sleep. And those are free. You can go get them right now and listen to them as much as you want. The course also has some talk about the different techniques that I’ve used and also what I learned from other people who had trouble sleeping that ended up finding a way to sleep.

0:34:17.6 AD: I also as an elder female went through menopause, and that changes things. And men go through menopause. So there’s changes. And when we are sleeping in the same space with another person, one might need it incredibly cold, the other might need it warm one might want a harder mattress, one might not. So we have to understand, I’ve always preferred to sleep alone. That doesn’t mean I don’t like cuddling or being with someone, but I do like having my own sleep space because if somebody moves or snores or farts it’s gonna wake me up. And that’s disturbing. And I think we all can agree that when we can go into sleep and sleep all the way till the next morning, we wake up feeling more refreshed because we have 90 minute sleep cycles where we go into certain levels of dream and come out of it.

0:35:18.2 AD: And so somebody who is a really light sleeper, If we’re catching them at the end of that 90 minute phase, then it’s difficult for them to go back into sleep. And I understand it’s tough. And then I’m sure everybody can agree if you are a late nighter like me, and then you have a gig where you have to get up really early, and I don’t even… Another thing, here’s a tip. Don’t have anything plugged in around your bed. If you have stuff plugged in around your bed, unplug it. Especially if there’s plugs under your bed or your… Don’t run an extension cord under your bed. And how many of us lie in bed and read? I don’t do it anymore. I used to. I used to love to, but honest to goodness, I unplugged everything. I still have those lights in the walls, but I unplugged… They’re not connected anymore.

0:36:14.7 AD: There are things that are plugged in, but they’re not right under my bed or right next to my bed. And I don’t bring a cell phone into my bedroom unless I have to awaken, but I have it in airplane mode and do not disturb. So but still, if I know it’s there, I’m not sleeping as deep as if it’s in the other room, 30 feet away or more. So electronics are a big no-no. Oh my goodness. Don’t have a router in your bedroom. And I feel for you, if you live in a tiny, tiny home and you have no choice, but try in that little space where you’re sleeping to just try not to have electronics.

0:36:57.9 AD: And why do we cover ourselves? Not because we wanna stay warm, of course, in a lot of cases it is, but it’s because any light that gets on the skin while we’re sleeping, will affect our ability to get into that deep state of sleep. So all of this is from research and from personal experience and interviewing people.

0:37:22.7 WB: Is there any final suggestions for how people might approach living and maintaining that type of lifestyle?

0:37:29.8 AD: Please just take a baby step. Don’t feel like you have to dump everything and go over to some other location or team, every little incremental movement in a more positive direction. Don’t feel like you’ve got to drink more water, but maybe just a little more water. Don’t feel like you have to give up all your creature comforts, but maybe evaluate, are they really healthy for me? The same thing goes for food. If you can’t pronounce it, don’t eat it. And if you don’t wanna eat it, don’t put it on your skin. Think about that. Really, these are just little tiny things but your habits are your habits and you have to understand, you just can’t rip everything down to shreds and make a huge shift. Tiny little steps and praise yourself when you’re doing something good.

0:38:37.6 AD: At the very least, just take a moment of gratitude before you put anything in your body. And, then every day. And what I do is I have a pop-up reminder on my calendar in the afternoon that says, say three things you’re grateful for, and just do that. Yeah. People have gratitude journals and people… I like the new electronic calendar thing where you can write all kinds of popups and I do. And you know what? That’s another way to block out sections on your calendar so nobody can get in there. And you can always remove one if you have to put a meeting in there or something. But just try a little tiny shift. And if you need my help, I’m here for you. Just come and engage me to be your coach and to help you and to, let you know that you’re doing really, really well and you’re moving in the right direction. Take a moment to love you, love everybody around you just a little bit more. And just, be grateful and, go out in nature. Look at the night sky. Maybe look at a star map. Remember how you used to lie on the ground and look at the clouds and see shapes. Do that once in a while. Close your eyes. Listen to the insects and the birds. That’s it. You don’t have to make big giant changes all at once.

0:40:04.9 WB: If people are interested, how can they follow you? How can they connect with you?

0:40:09.0 AD: The best way is to go to my site, which is my name.com. Ambika Devi, A-M-B-I-K-A D-E-V-I. I’ll spell it one more time. A-M-B-I-K-A D-E-V-I.com. There you can find my blog and you can learn a lot right there. My blog articles are audio, so you can listen to them while you’re driving. You can go, also find my podcast there that’s free. And if you wanna sign up for my newsletter, you’re welcome to. You can find me on social media. All the social media links are there. I post all the time little videos. I host free webinars. My goodness, there’s so many ways to get in touch with me and learn from me. I just wanna help you.

0:41:00.0 WB: And don’t forget The books.

0:41:01.3 AD: And of course, engage in…

0:41:01.9 WB: So you also have a little…

0:41:02.7 AD: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the books. There’s a book page there with all my books. And, of course you can make appointments. There’s a place to make an appointment, and my linktree is linktree/my name. So new events, like right now, there’s a webinar going on for women. Forgive me, guys. But, it is Dating After Divorce for Women. And but my segment will be, well, you should still be able to get ahold of it. I probably will be posting some of that, but you’ll find some of the greatest interviews. Like I’m sure this one will end up there on my blog and my YouTube channel. And for goodness sake follow me, give me some likes and reach out. I’m just a little person over here.

0:41:51.8 WB: Fantastic. I’m sure many of our listeners will be keen to do that. It’s been wonderful having you on the show, on the ET project, and hopefully I’ve got it right at the end Ambika Devi.

0:42:07.3 AD: Ambika. [laughter]

0:42:09.9 WB: Dear me.

0:42:11.2 AD: Yeah, absolutely. Just connect with me. I would love to hear from you and to help you to be more holistic in your life.

0:42:21.5 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us on the ET Project, a show for executive talent development. Until next time, check out our site for free videos, eBooks, webinars and blogs at coaching4companies.com.

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